Rex Rammell is running against Governor Otter in the Republican Primary this spring. I contacted Rex on some recent controversial issues regarding his campaign. In an effort to do as Mr. Rammell suggests in his second response to me here is the e-mail conversation in its entirety.
Please forgive the errors in spelling and grammar these e-mails are copied verbatim.
Mark Balzer wrote,
Mr. Rammell, as a member of the church i wish to tell
you that you have done damage to your campaign and the causes you
support with your recent actions. Opening your meetings to people
outside the church is not going to fix the problem you have
created. You have good ideas that would have been supported by
conservatives state wide. If you had even gotten 10% of the vote
in the primary Governor Otter would have had to pay attention to
your ideas and progress could have been made. As it is now
anything you say will be credited to the rantings of a fanatic. I
am sorry you have decided to take your campaign in this direction
I am forced to look elsewhere for a true conservative candidate.
Sincerely Mark Balzer Co Director Sovereign Idaho Coalition
Rex Rammell
Mark:
If you can support a drunk and an adulter over a faithful member of the church who has better ideas, then God bless you brother, because you're going to need it. People like you can't see the forest for the trees. The reason I was using Joseph's prophecy is because guys like you listen to know one but the prophets. Your problem is you won't even listen to them. The Constitution is nearly destroyed and I would bet money you have no idea what that even means. No brother, you are the one letting the Lord down, not me. You are not one of the Elders! Just sit on your couch and complain and stay out of my way. I am looking for warriors not bellyaching wimps like you. Rex Rammell
Mark Balzer
Mr. Rammell, I did not say I was going to vote for Butch Otter, only that I could not vote for you, the prophets have said, every election year since I have joined the church that the church is not to be used in any way to support a campaign. They have also said that the "White Horse Prophecy" is not church doctrine. I will pray for you brother but I feel you are treading on dangerous ground over which I will not follow.
Rex Rammell
FYI I never said I was talking about the White Horse Prophecy. That rumor was started by an LDS reporter from Rexburg. He just assumed since the Constitution Prophecy was repeated in the White Horse that I would be speaking about it. The title of my speak was The Battle to Save the Constitution and it was not an LDS doctrine speak. Look up Pres Benson's speak in 1986 The Constitution: A Heavenly Banner page 28 and see Joseph's validated prophecy on the Constitution. Then tell all your friends the truth about me and the rumors.
Mark Balzer
Mr. Rammell the fact remains I do not believe you have any authority to call a meeting of the elders of the church other than those over which you have stewardship, and then only for matters relating to your stewardship. Yes we all have stewardship over the Constitution as citizens of this country, that stewardship is not nor was it ever limited to members of the LDS faith. Changing the invitation after the press heard about the meetings and a national stink was raised does not, as I said originally, fix the problem. The Sovereign Idaho Coalition has as its members a large number of LDS people, as are the various Tea Party groups in the state. That in no way reflects any type of recruitment effort on my or any other individuals part. We were welcomed by the people who originally started the Tea Parties, the Campaign for Liberty, and other groups we affiliate with. Had you reached out to these groups before your hand got caught in the cookie jar you may have been able to garner a large state wide support mechanism. You have attempted to link the church to your campaign or at the very minimum have done nothing to correct the idea that you have linked your campaign to church prophecy. In my opinion these actions have created an negative feeling towards you and the church with many of the conservatives both in and out of the church that I work with in the Sovereign Idaho Coalition and Tea Party efforts state wide. I will do as you ask in your last response but do not expect it to do any good whatsoever.
More as events warrant.
Mark Balzer Co Director Sovereign Idaho Coalition.
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You are a fool! If you would even take the time and learn what I stand for you might understand, but you will not. You have been deceived. I never said I had authority over the Elders. I simply invited some of my friends to a meeting to talk about the prophesy. Is there something wrong with that? Don't write back. I don't have any more time to spend trying to help you understand.
Rex Rammell
I think that says it all.
mab
Wed January 27 2010
Mark:
I understand you put our private conversation on the internet. That is fine. I have nothing to hide. However, for every vote you persuade against me you help Butch Otter. I wonder is the guy you want to continue as governor. I am the only person in Idaho that can beat him. FYI, I am doing very well all over Idaho. Up North, there is a tremedous amount of support. I could win the race and stop the very people you supposedly are trying to stop. What you are doing is like beating yourself with a base ball bat to make you feel better.
I would like to speak to your group if your group has the courage to listen to me. If you would rather, I will debate you in front of your group if you dare. Only foolish men make judgements based on hear say. If you want the truth, name the place and time. If you want to continue to believe I am the enemy, so be it.
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Rex Rammell
Mr. Rammell,
I believe that I said in my first post that "you have good ideas..." You requested that I "Then tell all your friends the truth about me and the rumors." I posted the conversation so that all could get the references you requested them to read if they wished. My only objection is the manner in which you have conducted your campaign any debate we would have would center around that as it is the only area which I voiced any disagreement with you. Since I do not have the stewardship to make judgments for the church that would be fruitless. Politics is perception and there is a huge perception that you have linked your campaign to prophecy and the LDS church. That is the only area that I have cautioned you in. I think that we could agree on many constitutional issues because unlike your suggestion I have not just "sit on your couch and complain" and I am aware of the danger the constitution is in I have a very thorough understanding of the The Constitution sir. Until you publicly distance yourself from your position that the church and prophecy somehow support your campaign I am afraid this will have to be the last communication that we have.
Sincerely
Mark Balzer
Co-Director Sovereign Idaho Coalition.
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I don't like this tone between you guys. I have talked with both of you gentleman and we fight for the same cause!! There is an unnecessary division between you both by personality and mis-information. We need Rex Rammell as Governor, not Otter. Mark, if you are not going to vote for Rammell OR Otter, then who? Especially if you agree with Rammell's views on The Constitution? This is the last thing we need right now with the centralization of powers running their course.
ReplyDeleteI directly asked Mark to remove this post, and he said "No". I am now publicly requesting that this be removed. Please understand that even though Rex was quick to pull the trigger, it is Mark that is in the wrong. Mark is propagating misinformation and erroneous perceptions. Please speak with Rex directly if you have any questions or concerns about this communication. Those involved in the fight for liberty should seek truth. This post does not contribute towards that goal and has become a stumbling block for the cause. --Greg Collett (www.grassrootsgreg.com)
ReplyDeleteRex has a lot of Non-LDS supporters. I'm friends with many people that are strongly supporting Rex from All religious backgrounds.
ReplyDeleteJohn Hancock got his feelings hurt too, but he still supported George Washington because he knew Washington would succeed.
Rex Rammell can succeed Mark - Most important: Where will you stand on Judgment Day? Every person you deceive with this will be held to your account Mark.